Admission Decision Process

 Thanks alot for your reply.

 It was really valuable for me. i'm feeling you as a good friend though we don't know each other, hope one day we can meet.

 

This time also i'v small query hope u'll hsve the same type ok co-operation as usual. As I waiting the result of entrance exam, i'v gaing more clear knowledge about the education in finland through you. My 1st Preferance is SAMK, Rauma, 2nd is JYVASKALA and the 3rd is TAMK, Tampere.

 

Now, if i selected i want to go for TAMK, Tampere, then how does it possible to be selected by 3rd one by avoiding  the 1st and 2nd preference.

 

 

Furtherly, at your last post you wrote to a student that, "wait for the result of all UAS, before confirm any Uas" , this way if i got selected from all the UAS i can go for Tamk as my wish but, in a  information kit in www.tamk.fi, they have mentioned that " If a student is selected by the UAS of 1st preference, he will not selected by other UAS (2ND , 3RD preference).

 

in this case what do u want to suggest me.

 

 

Dear Friend, Thank you very much for your kind complements. The admission decision follows a quite simple process.

 

First, the result of your entrace will be shared by all of the cooperating colleges. But, all other options will wait until the admission decision of first option. So, in your case as well, both second and third option will wait for the decision of first option college. Now, the first option releases two kinds of decision confirmation list to its cooperating colleges through the Admission.fi network. First, The list of students most likely to be confirmed for admission (Accepted), Second, the list of alternative students whom they might consider  (Waiting List). Meanwhile, every college prepares their own lists of their applied students. Now, before releasing the admission decision to public, they check the decision of upper options; for example, when your second option try to confirm you for admission, it first checks the list of  Accepted students of your first option college. If your name is in the accepted list of first option college, the second option will not include your name on their accepted list. If your name is in waiting list of First option, second option confirms your admission and releases it, meanwhile it also notifies to first option so that, your name will be removed from the waiting list of first option college. If your name is rejected for first option, it does not matter to other colleges, other colleges might accept you. All these process is coordinated by Joint Application Network (www.admissions.fi) itself to minimize the multiple acceptance. But, you won't be notified about these intermediatory processes.

 

Now, if you want to go to your second option rather than first option, you mail your second option college that you would like to be accpeted on this college since you did not feel comfortable on first option college now. So, if you are in the waiting list of this second option college due to the acceptance of first option, it might coordinate with first option to be accpeted on second one rather than first one. But, remember, it will decrease your probability of being acceptance on first option since after this, first option will not be interested to include your name on its acceptance since you already notified second option is your primary preference now. And, it is not necessary that second option will certainly admit you. So, think about it before mailing them. 

 

I wrote previously that wait untill all acceptance results publish. It is because sometimes there is probability of being acceptance on multiple as well. Following cases might lead you on multiple acceptance:

 

1. Suppose you are on the waiting list of all of the three colleges. Later, they confirmed that some of the accepted students are not coming so they decided you to promote you as accepted students. Since, it was being too late to release the acceptance, two or more colleges released your acceptance then only they coordinate with the cooperating colleges. In such cases, now the decision is upto you to choose the one college of your interest to confirm your seat. It is normal to be accpeted by multiple colleges, but you can not confirm your seat on more than college. 

 

2. You applied to four colleges as four options, but they are not coordinating with each other for admission process. In this case, they deal individually and make admission decision separetely.

 

3. You applied to four colleges as four options, but your course or degree is different. So, they are not coordinating since you applied to different courses. So, it might also lead you for multiple acceptance. So, again, it is upto you to accept one of the college to confirm the seat.

 

 

 

For your particular case, I can suggest you, you keep on mailing your third option college, as asking about the status of the application but do not declare that you would like to come to this college. So, it will keep option open for all other colleges as well, at the same time you will be notified about the progress of your admission decision. If you found good response and more likely to be admitted on this third option, you declare to them as you are interested on this college only and would not want to wait for the result of first or second option college and request them to admit you since you are not seeking anymore admission from First or Second option.

 

Best of Luck.

Let's learn Finnish language

Knowing Finnish Language is very important for every aspect of knowing Finland. Almost every instructions in the road and trains are in Finnish. Though they might be also in English but all instructions are not in English. Same with Shopping malls, ingredients and item names, they all are in English. You can't buy any food if you  don't have basic Finnish word knowledge what they are called. All Finn does not speak English. However most of them try to speak English and wanted to help you but language problem could be a barrier.

 

Most importantly, Finnish is really important for getting jobs. Does not matter whether that job requires the knowledge of Finnish language or not; Finnish Languages really makes an impression. When you go for searching jobs even in Washing Dishes or Cleaning jobs, the first question will be 'Do you know Finnish Language?'. If you know Finnish Language even little bit, it would be a great advantage for getting job. So, If you know Finnish, there are so much job opportunities for you, if you don't know Finnish, you are treated as intruders and only very very less job opportunites.

 

So, Let's learn Finnish. I have posted some of the useful links for self learning Finnish. Following links will help you to learn Finnish yourself.

 

1. Uuno is a language learning resource, primarily intended to teach foreign exchange students about the Finnish language and Finnish culture before they come to Finland. Uuno provides a non-demanding and entertaining introduction to the Finnish grammar.

 

2. Want to learn some Finnish or practise what you already know? Easyfinnish is an elementary online course aimed at anyone interested in learning Finnish. Perform exercises, listen to audios, play games, converse with others or test your skills.

 

3. Finnish for Foreigners provides an introduction to the Finnish language and Finland. University of Helsinki Language Centre.

 

4. The Finnish Language provides an introduction to the Finnish language and grammar.

 

5. Supisuomea is a beginners'/basic course in Finnish that helps you to deal with various everyday situations in Finnish.

Links are referred from the web content of Lappeenranta University of Technology, www.lut.fi

From June second week, I will be starting the the Finnish Lessions as well on www.nepalfinland.com with step to step learning. Meanwhile you can explore more about Finnish Language from above links and get some familarize with it.

How to fill the form?

 I went through the application form for Residence permit and there i found two questions..
1.Are you planning to work in finland ? If yes specify the company and working area.
2.Does Your Educational institute provide any benifits?
 
so could you please help me what should i write there..I actually want to have my part time job without hampering my study
 
if i fill up with Yes option will that put some negative impact to issue residence permit for me
so please tell me what should i feel there.

 

 

Hello Friend, Thank you for your mail.

 

Ya, you should write the same. you can write, I would like to work part time to cover my living expense if it does not hamper my studies according to the laws of Finland.

 

It won't create any negative impact on the Resident Permit process since it is allowed by the laws of Finland to work part time for students to cover their living expense without hampering their studies.

 

 

And what shoul i fill on second question do i need to mention about the free in Tution Fee??

 

 

It is asking about does your college provides any kind of scholarship to cover living expense or some other benifit or not. It is true that Tuition Fee is free, but this question is supposed to answer any other benifit like scholarship or other options that college might provide you. If your college provides you scholarship for living expensive, you can not work part time during your studies except in Summer time.

Admission Decision and Job issues

Dear Friend, Thank you for your mail.

 

i've apperead my entarace exam and waiting the result.i did it my best, expecting above 85%.

1. Is the passing the entrance exam is enough to get the resident permit?

 

No. Appearing on Entrance does not mean that you have been admitted to college. Appearing in Entrance just means that you are qualified and your application is accepted. After the results of your entrance, the admission selection process starts and only few students are selected for admission out of passed students. So, let's be hopeful, you will get the admission, then only you can apply for Resident Permit with the Admission Acceptance letter which will be issued only if and after admission decision.

 

 

2. I've applied for the Bachelor Degree in Finland But I've already completed the Bachelor degree form nepal and and have some year work experience in Gulf and Nepal, Does it make any Negative or positive impact on Resident Permit Decision.

 

That is nice that you have experience and previous degree as well but it does not matter anything to Resident Permit process. However, it might matter on your admission prcess. But, the interviewer during Resident Permit interview could ask you what were you doing on those gap period but I don't think they  are decisive factors for Resident Permit. If your previous degree is similar or related to the degree for which you have applied in Finland, you can talk with professors later to make some exsemptions once you arrive here if they are transferable.

 

 

3.my applied college are in 1) Rauma/Pori, 2) Jyvaskyla and 3) Tampere,  according to your blog Tampere is a good place but in my case its on 3rd Priority and the Pori/Rama is in First. What is the earning chances in Pori/rauma.are there any nepali students...would u pass their mail id.

 

As I mentioned on a number of previous blogs as well, all of the other towns are similar except Helsinki and have only fewer job opportunities and probabilities. Your town is also the same. I am sorry, I can not share the mail IDs of students there, however, you can mail the college asking for the emails of Nepalese students there after you are admitted. Then, the college might ask with the students and could share the ID with you.

 

 

4. is it possible to go for master degree after the bachelor with out returning nepal ? Are threre any employment opprtunity after graduate.

 

Ya, it is possible. You can normally apply for Master degree and if admitted, you can process the conversion or extension of your Resident Permit on the basis of Master's degree. After graduation, there are a lot of job opportunities, don't worry about that, the problem is only with the living expense to complete your degree.

Victim of Consultant

Dear Nepal Finland,

   Thank you for giving out so much  informations abt Finland. You've really been a great help. Now I've  a small problem and I hope you'll help me out.
  I applied myself but taking the help of Finnish Information Centre. It is not a consultancy but they call themselves non-profitable organisation disseminiting info. abt Finland and its culture.
 Firstly I became their member and they helped me on how I should apply. I took the help so that I wouldn't make any mistakes. But while applying I gave their post box no as they told me that docs may not arrive if I give my home address.
   Now I feel that later on while applying for visa, the consular may suspect that I applied through consultancy as there are other 20-25 students who have given the same address.
What should I do? Should I mail the college for changing my address or is that ok??
 waiting for your suggestions.

Thank you very much for your kind appreciation of the blog.  I really suspect that to be a consultant since if they are not, they should have encouraged your to give your own address. Since they gave their  own address, they are trying to keep a hole open to blackmail you later since the document arrives to their address not yours. Also, why you need to be the member of that consultancy to get help. If they really wish to help, they would not have bound you. So, I am sure that it is one of the fraud consultants as others.

I don't believe this sentence that the document won't be delivered to your address. Of course, the document will be delivered to your address. If you really think so, you can open your own GPO Box at Sundhara or else where to ensure delivery to your own GPO Box. It will cost you only 600 NRS as far as my knowledge. So, its always better to operate from your own address or GPO Box rather than paying those fraud consultant with lakhs of amount for using address only.

I strongly suggest you to start the process of changing your address immediately and also inform the Embassy about the consultant. It will ensure your own protection as you mention the suspect of Embassy since you will inform them yourself. Also, helps them to keep track of fraud consultants to help and save other students as well.

Following post will guide you through the process of changing mail address:

Avoiding fraud consultants of Nepal (http://www.nepalfinland.com/2008/04/avoiding-fraud-consultants-of-nepal.html)

Below is the link about one of the successful student who changed his address using the process mentioned on above post. This post also contains the sample of the email which he sent to the college to change his address:

Attempts to change my mail address to protect 3 lakhs from fraud consultant
(http://www.nepalfinland.com/2008/04/attempts-to-change-my-mail-address-to.html)


Best of Luck !!

Job in Kuopio

Hi friend, 

I had gone through your site and it was really worthy for all of us who are thinking of going Finland for further study.....actually i have got an offer letter from university of Kuopio for masters in public health..though the university is very good...i am just wondering about the possibility of getting job in Kuopio...as i went through your site..many have recommended not to go to eastern part of Finland..so i would be very much pleased if you make me clear on this...is it a bad decision to go to Kuopio?

Undoubtedly, University of Kuopio is very good and well known for Health related studies. There are some Nepalese students as well who are doing very well on their degrees. But, if job is your preference, Kuopio is not a wise decision. Getting jobs in Kuopio city is almost impossible.

However there is a little hope as well. Kuopio University, unlike to other universities of Finland, promote student jobs inside the university as well for Health related students. So, if you are lucky enough, there is a chance that you will get university jobs. But, its all about taking risks. But, be sure about it, Kuopio city will not make you easy for job issues.

But, the health education of Kuopio is really appreciable and admirable inside the Finland as well. So, once you complete your degree there, you will definitely get a better paying jobs. So, if you decide to come here, it is better to come up with backup amount. And, be sure, this amount will be worthy and multiplied once you complete your degree.

Resident Permit Process and Job in Lappeenranta

Dear Friend,
I have applied to Lappeenranta University Technology for Master's in Information Technology and got the mail from the college as well confirming about my admission. According to the mail from university admission letter has been already dispatched and will reach here within one week.

So i would be very thankful if you could tell me about
1.How much is the certainty that i can have my further study in Finland.?

Congratulations for getting admission! There are more other Nepalese in Information Technology as well in this University. So, you will get help and kind cooperation from them as well.

Acceptance to admission means certainty of your admission. You are already confirmed for your further studies in Finland. Now, you need to follow some formal process to reserve your seat. When your admission package reached you, you will find three most important documents on the pack along with some other readable materials.
1. Letter of Acceptance: It proves that you got admission on this university. This is the document on which basis you will apply to Embassy for visa.

2. Confirmation Form: This form is to confirm and reserve your seat on this university. You are supposed to fill it and return back to this university to confirm your seat that you accepted your admission. If you have applied to other universities of Finland as well and waiting for their admission results, do not send it immediately, since you can not confirm on multiple universities. If you are sure that you want to come to Lappeenranta, fill this form and send it back before the deadline as mentioned on the form itself.

2.Do i need to submit property valuation, income source,other relevent document to the Embassy for the Visa?

First, you won't apply for Visa, you will apply for Resident Permit. According to rule of Finland, if you are staying more than 90 days, you will apply for Resident Permit, not Visa. Visa is for those who want to stay less than 90 days.

Now, you don't need any of the documents as you require on other countries. You need following documents:

1. Passport
2. Two Color Photo (visa size, normally our passport size photo of Nepal does not match the visa size)
3. Academic certificates
4. Acceptance Letter ( which will come on your admission package)
5. Health insurance covering up to € 30000 for one year. (you can do it on insurance companies of Kathmandu)
6. A bank balance certificate showing you have at least € 6000 (Minimum NRS 6,00,000) on your own account. (It is to prove that you have enough living expense for one year which will be later needed to show them on bank draft while collecting Resident Permit.)
7. Photocopies of each of the above mentioned documents.

Then, you go to Embassy with all of these documents with original documents, fill the form there. Then, you will be interviewed, generally on the same day.

You don't need any property valuation, income statement, relationship certificate. Nothing at all. Just prepare the above documents. Thats all. However, keep visiting website of Embassy of Finland, Kathmandu if any provision is changed. But, till now, the requirements are as I mentioned above.

3. What is the probability of getting job on Lappeenranta ?

Jobs are really difficult in Lappeenranta. Its almost impossible. The most common jobs you can find are the jobs in Postal office and in which there will be employed students who won't leave the position and even one or two leave the job, there will be a large number of waiting lists. Other all jobs, even washing dishes need Finnish language. You will learn Finnish during your studies but, it takes time. If job is your preference, Lappeenranta could not be a good decision. However few lucky international guys get jobs in software houses, but it is so negligible that its like almost impossible. My suggestion would be, if you want to come here, come with backup for at least one year. Your draft amount (6000 euro) is really enough to survive for at least 1.5 hours (might be even two years, if you are economy person). So, if you decide to come here, keep in mind that, there are no jobs and you will be living with your draft amount.

4. How many days it took to anounce the approval for Visa by the Embessy?

After they collect your Application Form, they forward it to Immigration Office and they are the one which gives you Resident Permits. Embassy are just mediator between Immigration office and students. So, Embassy will inform you by phone that your Resident Permit application is accepted. Generally it takes around three to four weeks.

Then, you need to visit them to get a letter of confirmation of Visa for the purpose to get the Euro exchange letter from Ministry of Education. On the basis of that letter, Ministry issues you a Euro Exchange letter, Then, you can go to any bank to make Bank draft of the amount (6000 euro) from the amount which you have shown during applying. Then, when you will show that Bank Draft to Embassy, they will ask you for your Passport and stamp the Resident Permit on your passport.

5.how many days before we can apply to Embassy before the Session Start?

I don't think, you need to wait any time to apply for since whenever you apply the validity of Resident Permit will start from nearer date of your study period. So, after you get your admission package, prepare the documents and apply immediately. So, it will not make you rush at the last moment since the last moment is very crucial to spend time with family and shopping and related stuffs.